Posts by Misfire

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    i mean Digital Extreme was something like these devs back in the days. They have this many people to just help other major studios like Epic Games and 2k to develop unreal engine (and unreal tournament game). Now theyre their own publishers and not many "indie" devs (idk if i can call them indie still) can be publishers for themselves and making an almost like AAA game.

    not really warframe and ironsight fall in the same category which are shooter community LMAO.

    That's a pretty ignorant statement. You're either trolling or are really clueless and have no experience with shooter games whatsoever.

    Ironsight is 1st person PvP game and Warframe is 3rd person PvE game. Just the fact that one is 1st person and the other is 3rd person makes them light years different from one another. But then again I don't expect you would know any of this, after all playing one Asian FPS doesn't make you that literate on shooter games. xD

    well that means that SUV is sports utility vehicle and pickup truck is a flatbed truck basically and theyre totally different. Im sure they both have some similar characteristics. Besides youre saying this particular group only like either not both and thats not true.

    wow so what youre saying is that Pepsi cant take the steps of what Coca cola took because theyre two different brands two different communities. Ok. Its funny how you are concluding with Begging the Question fallacy that since they both are different genres for two different sets of player communities, Ironsight cant follow the steps that Warframe took which is not what actually said. I see how you are the smart one over here that is secretly part of staff for the game. Now you are insulting me because you know you have no other way to support your premises which i shot them down since you dont provide a convincing reason why Ironsight is unable to follow a similar path. xD



    and no two different genres and two different communities arent reasons. theyre hearsay that doesnt provide evidence.

    Now you're talking about soda which since you seem to not know Pepsi and Coca Cola happen to fall into the same CATEGORY/COMMUNITY aka SODA drinkers....You literally are shooting yourself in the foot and I didn't even bother reading past that point.

    not really warframe and ironsight fall in the same category which are shooter community LMAO.

    wow so what youre saying is that Pepsi cant take the steps of what Coca cola took because theyre two different brands two different communities. Ok. Its funny how you are concluding with Begging the Question fallacy that since they both are different genres for two different sets of player communities, Ironsight cant follow the steps that Warframe took which is not what actually said. I see how you are the smart one over here that is secretly part of staff for the game. Now you are insulting me because you know you have no other way to support your premises which i shot them down since you dont provide a convincing reason why Ironsight is unable to follow a similar path. xD



    and no two different genres and two different communities arent reasons. theyre hearsay that doesnt provide evidence.

    lets see... i can obtain them for free but its still P2W? Not sure what im winning for nor what i can pay only to win. Do you even know what P2W is? Gaining instant access to something that can be unlocked at the same time isnt P2W. P2W is something that a player can pay only to get an advantage at that scenario against another player. So youre blaming the P2W aspect on grinding in a game that is designed to be a loot farming grinding game? Maybe the game isnt for you if youre a casual player. THERE ARE TONS OF PLAYERS THAT NEVER SPENT A PENNY AND GOT EVERYTHING THAT EXISTED IN GAME EITHER BY FARMING AND/OR TRADING SPECIAL CURRENCY. Its funny how you just assumed everything is that way for something that is only semi correct and try to backup your point.


    Tell me the progress of designing both games. Warframe has been out for almost a decade and only couple years back they added the first semi open world aspect. IT IS NOT BASED ON A OPEN WORLD GAMEPLAY. Now you are going BS here. Im not talking about ironsight being like warframe. Im talking about the steps of how Warframe became a game that seemed to be a failure to publishers and now look at where it is now. IRONSIGHT CAN FOLLOW IT STEPS AS A F2P GAME. Ironsight has a similar road. It failed in Korea. Now Aeria Games picked it up to publisher for Western region. We all know it has potential.


    it is invalid because of Bandwagon fallacy. You assume that the game is P2W from people that are paying the same thing as they can get by farming in a way that is free. So if you are downloading something and that CDN forces you to wait for 10 seconds before downloading or you can be a member by subscribing to download it instantly is that P2W?

    Who said i was comparing gameplay? I was comparing the aspect of the cost for playing the game and how it gets revenue. Western players has more income so they can spend more skins for ironsight than Asia so tell me how Asia would profit more than western players?

    Lets take 100 players for both regions and how much they can spend in a time frame. Which region would generate more revenue?

    Again two different things. On Warframe you are rewarded extra stats, gear, weapons, etc. with money assuming they are spending money on Prime Warframes. They are also able to get legendary cards easier on Warframe, so Warframe has a P2W aspect, except no one plays PvP so it's not viewed that way there. Where as here on Ironsight you are strictly pay for cosmentics, no advantages, boosts, etc. So of course a game that has a P2W aspect is going to generate more revenue than one that is strictly cosmetics, unfortunately.

    tell me what is the P2W aspect? Its like you know what warframe is and trying to tell me warframe is a different thing.

    EVERYTHING especially in game special currency can be acquired without paying real money.

    1. tell what weapon, gear, stats etc are rewarded that cant be looted

    2. Besides the so-called P2W aspect you said, maybe ironsight can be just like Warframe when DEVS HAVE BRAINS


    Sorry but your false data you provided made your argument invalid.

    Comparing Ironsight to Warframe isn't a good comparison at all. Two completely different games, Warframe appeals to the mmo grinding community. Warframes only competition is Destiny, where as Ironsight has like 10x the amount of competition. So yeah it's hard to compare Warframe to Ironsight.

    Who said i was comparing gameplay? I was comparing the aspect of the cost for playing the game and how it gets revenue. Western players has more income so they can spend more skins for ironsight than Asia so tell me how Asia would profit more than western players?

    Lets take 100 players for both regions and how much they can spend in a time frame. Which region would generate more revenue?

    because western especially USD worth more than Asian currency xd

    Not when the western player base is many times smaller than the Asians player base. Trust me their financial team has all these things calculated out already. The NA version of this game hasn't maintained a strong player base since launch. Even at launch it didn't have a strong player base. At this point the game is close to, if not already hemorrhaging money, which again is unfortunate, but games like Ironsight and SF2, even though both are/were great games, just don't seem to get off the ground in NA, advertising and exposure could be a big part of it because by the time a lot of people find these games they are already on the decline.


    EDIT: I also forgot to add they are literally making no money at this point I forgot they are giving away pretty much every premium gun in the game for free now by using the code MakeItSurvive in the item shop on their website. Which is pretty much a slap in the face to those of us who supported this game by purchasing those weapons with our money to try and help keep this game going. Not really a great look because those few supporters they had, myself included, will more than likely no longer be purchasing chips/AP.

    well maybe its because some devs dont fix the problems listed in western version lmao. ofc people would play the better version

    then tell me how warframe is the most successful f2p game in market in both regions with better graphics. No one is complaining about anything besides rng drops but yeah. Its not about which region the game is in for the market. It is about the dev who should know what they are doing.


    before no publishers viewed warframe to be successful as now. Digital Extremes worked their butts off to get the game to where it is now. It was a small dev more like the devs for ironsight who could only help other major studios to develop a game. Now they expanded to almost a AAA title devs. WHY CANT WIPLE GAMES SEE THIS PATH MODEL???

    Exactly then why would devs focus on asia region? At this point it seems like aeria games is being used. Im not a lawyer but it seems like a lawsuit can happen.

    I mean why would they not focus on Asia? That's where they are making their money and have their bigger player base? It's business, unfortunately.

    because western especially USD worth more than Asian currency xd

    not sure why they think asia would get more player base and revenue when western is mental with fps

    Asia's player base for games like this is definitely higher. Western gamers is mental for the big name FPS games, CoD's, Battlefield, Counter-Strike, and now Riot Games Valorant. Small companies have a hard time getting players in Western areas.

    Exactly then why would devs focus on asia region? At this point it seems like aeria games is being used. Im not a lawyer but it seems like a lawsuit can happen.

    i mean it was all fun but aeria games should just cut off their ties with devs at this point. They are just paying their staff for this game for nothing now. It may be good to get paid while not doing anything but these staff members are passionate to be a staff member for a more successful game instead. There were a lot of staff changes (from resigning for a better job to adding more solid senior community staff member) which makes the game seem like shaky within the devs and the players. i dont think theres much to lose for the publishers more than the devs.

    why would we use a ww2 .45 ACP SMG if we have better versions of that caliber smg? Its like saying they should use M1 Garand

    coz we can? i know other games where people are crazy about this gun and its buffed btw so its a good ides to buff its ROF and maybe tweak its accuracy sth to replace the p90 for those who hate it to the core.

    How about at this point we just add MP40 and STG44 too? Lets add all WW2 guns! Your explanation coz we can doesnt say anything

    did we travel back to ww2?

    Yeah. Its even older than the ak47. since in AR we have a rifle from this era we need an SMG from this era too. "For some reasons the NAF are still inclined to use WWII weapons against the evil hand of Eden..."

    why would we use a ww2 .45 ACP SMG if we have better versions of that caliber smg? Its like saying they should use M1 Garand

    I feel like the game is totally dead and limping at its last leg. Now i have to wait about 2 minutes to find a match. The last HQ report from community relations was from October of last year. I thought they were supposed to keep the players update at least per month. If there isnt much going on (which is still bad but) at least keep us up to date on what is being worked on. They could have released patches for bugs and/or small things to improve the game per month besides a major update to let the players understand that the devs are still interested in making the game. The devs had time to expand their game and company when the game was being known widely.

    Now things went silent for few months after a report and usually this means things arent going good (servers are preparing to close) as all other unsuccessful betas/games that pay the devs well. (GITS had one major overhaul then announced shutdown after few months, Maplestory 2, it wasnt an major update but you get the point)

    you mean high skill players that are closer to the server? Yeah this game is dead already. now it takes at least 2 mins at least to find a match.

    What if I tell you that you can save replays?
    And what if I tell you that wiple has a player for them, but doesn't make it available for the player base?


    The funny thing about these files is, that if you don't have the player, you cannot do much beside reading some stuff in text format... But watching a replay without the proper player is not possible.

    So the feature exists, but won't be available for us.

    you forgot to say that aeria games doesnt even know that exists or they would ask for those when reporting players instead of asking you to *record*

    After more than 6hrs playing this game I don't really mind the in-game bugs but for the launcher bug that requires player to restart PC as a workaround is annoying. I dont know th experience for steam players but this needs a fix unless its OS version based.


    Anyway hoping for the best!

    Weird, I have 300 hours of game and never had this problem with the launcher. My OS is Win10 Pro version 1903. It also never happened when I was using Win8.

    its the *unknown file* one it happens at any point during the game from launcher to map loading

    Frag Grenades - At a specific angle (#cloud9), you only have about 1 second to get out from the center of the grenade to 7.5m away which i dont think it is possible without taking some damage. Solution: Reduce blast radius to 5m
    Concussion grenades - It just feels awful to use when u dont land it perfectly Solution: increase max stun range in 7.5m
    Flash Bangs - The effect is pretty useless against skilled players. When it explodes you have like a opacity gradient change when getting blind, at that time frame you have time to acquire a target and hold down the trigger. This isnt what Flash Bangs are used for. Solution: Speed up time when you get blinded
    Tear Gas -
    Just not as good as other grenades. The effect isnt that great to make you miss and damage is nothing as player will move out of the area. Solution: More smoke from the tear gas, stronger effect/more damage, the effect should be continuous to whoever enters the area
    Couch Spamming- Yes I am a pro by making others miss me... Solution: Have a crouch cooldown which is 1 second

    Bunny Hopping/Corner jumping - Yes i need these to make me be better... Solution: reduce jump height

    Couching Hitbox - Is the hitbox like half of the standing hitbox? IRL when you crouch you only reduce 7 feet of your height...

    Aim time - LMG and SR should have 0.4s minimum of aim time. AR should have minimum of 0.3s. Shotgun, SMG, Pistol should have 0.2s minimum of aim time. AND SCOPES SHOULD NOT CHANGE AIM TIME (cough sniper rifles)


    Remember this is about balancing the game not to nerf players that go 50-1 KD this is about letting ALL players having a chance to have fun on getting more kills than death in a 100-99 game score match by balancing.

    I know that this game is meant to work with the lowest pc specs but why doesnt it want to try to use the most clock speed the motherboard would let it to. I have played around with my cpu and at 1.6ghz the game only runs at 30 fps but around 2.3ghz its around 60.

    Theres a difference between able to use the lowest specs to play the game and the hardware able to run the game at full speeds. Icore 2 duo may be supported and run the game but what matters is how much the resources the game requests to run.

    Misfire wrote:

    because in Call of duty MP you can only choose 3 reward streak items for all classes

    In MW3, you could choose different loadouts for different classes. MW3 also had assault (offensive), support (tactical) and specialist (doesn't exist in Ironsight) killstreak packages. But none of this is relevant to the topic anyways. Cod and Ironsight are similar games sure, but Ironsight is still it's own game.

    im sure mw3 was one of the game activision test on different classes but most cod games is one per match i think xd. but meh

    I can remember being able to choose different drones for different loadouts but this feature seems to be removed. Now i can imagine some of the reasons as to why it was removed but still, having the option to choose only 1 set of drones or to select different types of drones for different loadouts which gets its points reset when you switch to a different loadout would be pretty sweet.

    because in Call of duty MP you can only choose 3 reward streak items for all classes

    In order of preference:

    • I find AUG the most versatile and well-rounded. Works for every map.
    • SSG has a bit more power. Recoil not too bad. Good for every map too but not long corridors.
    • M4/Type89 these two are very precise with low recoil, especially the M4. Type89 might have lower TTK tho.

    I don't usually play with SMGs but they generally have a lower TTK than ARs at the cost of range.

    LMGs have trash recoil. Even with balance skill I can't play them.

    ofc u can u just need to be close to the server and have high fps

    Honestly, levels have nothing to do with skill, it's just playtime. Also, it doesn't matter if you're level 5 or 500, the same weapons are available for all. I've seen good players at low levels, bad players at high levels, in every game I've played.


    I agree a team balance system based on KD is the best solution, but then some people would complain too... like happened in CoD.

    People complain about everything. Everyone has opinions so the best solution has to happen for the sake of gameplay. In cod basing on KD has more close matches than ironsight that usually gets 100-50

    Hello guidashi,


    sadly that kind of filter doesn't exist but many players have shared their thoughts on this manner with mostly the same opinion.

    We're waiting for wiple games to bring a solution to this problem

    easy make matching making base on kd ratio. its not planet science xd

    Ar: famas for smg map but more ranged, msmb cuz better stats than aug (57 range is enough for most distances type 59 works too, m4/g36c/tar 21 for all around, hk for two shot smg meme, ebr works but not reliable in ttk for smg range, sg best all around, sa/scar best mid range guns


    Smg: ar57 for all around, most are pretty good but bad range or recoil control


    Lmg: mg4 best ttk in game, pkp for automatic high damage memes (not good at range) mk46 for all around


    Sr: dsr for oneshot wonder, blazer for quickscope (aims faster than any sr), rest are memes with silencers


    Pistol: deagle for finishers python works too, rest for if u cant aim


    Shotgun: they all suck


    Gameplay experience may vary