My feedback about killstreaks and misc (updated)

I agree, most of the killstreaks are very annoying.

The predator and the airstrike do nothing but take you and the people you kill out of the game flow. Using them feels like a waste of time and so does getting killed by them.

The mechs, zeus' and hellbirds only purpose is spawnkilling.

The escort drone is always bugging about and killing you from weird angles.

The observer drone removes you from the gameplay entirely for a long time and essentially sets the death sentence for anyone you mark.

I doubt that they will change something about it, though, especially considering that they're easy ways to keep mediocre players happy.

First of all, these are scorestreaks, not kill streaks. You can get them from going on a murderous rampage, from playing the objective, or if you can avoid the afk timer, from standing around doing largely nothing for 8 minutes. IronSight is a game based around obtaining more points, rather than just going for kills. Honestly, I prefer it this way. If you were to obtain offensive scorestreaks by obtaining kills rather than collecting points, no one would use the offensive drones. I think a killstreak system would require more luck than skill to obtain the higher tier drones such as a metal reaper, as that alone costs 4400 points, or 44 kills (100 points per kill in non SnD modes).

Given the lack of regional servers and general bad server stability and netcode, it would require luck to not get killed by the server issues before obtaining streaks. There would be nothing worse than obtaining 20 kills towards a hellbird in one life, just to get killed by someone with a red ping who has killed you before you can even see them

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First of all, these are scorestreaks, not kill streaks. You can get them from going on a murderous rampage, from playing the objective, or if you can avoid the afk timer, from standing around doing largely nothing for 8 minutes. IronSight is a game based around obtaining more points, rather than just going for kills. Honestly, I prefer it this way. If you were to obtain offensive scorestreaks by obtaining kills rather than collecting points, no one would use the offensive drones. I think a killstreak system would require more luck than skill to obtain the higher tier drones such as a metal reaper, as that alone costs 4400 points, or 44 kills (100 points per kill in non SnD modes).

Theres a reason why in cod you dont get chopper gunner, ac130 or nuke in support streak. And people still use that offensive system.

This game is basically whoever gets hellbird and/or reaper more wins. Killstreaks requires skill not some luck that lets you have better ping than the others. Pretty sure you dont want the enemy to spam hellbirds

While I think that "point based" killstreaks aren't inherently better either, CaptainNoobles does have a point in regards to random deaths.

You don't trade kills in CoD, health regen is a lot stronger and the netcode truly favors low ping players. I would even go as far as to say that the CoD netcode creates fairer results, because it seems to run at a way higher effective tickrate (if the final killcam in Ironsight is what the server sees, it's pretty bad). Neither of these are true for Ironsight. In Ironsight, you die a lot more often than in CoD.

Mtrz wrote:

sqroot wrote:

While I think that "point based" killstreaks aren't inherently better either, CaptainNoobles does have a point in regards to random deaths.

You don't trade kills in CoD, health regen is a lot stronger and the netcode truly favors low ping players. I would even go as far as to say that the CoD netcode creates fairer results, because it seems to run at a way higher effective tickrate (if the final killcam in Ironsight is what the server sees, it's pretty bad). Neither of these are true for Ironsight. In Ironsight, you die a lot more often than in CoD.

Ofc u die more, but how many time have u experienced this? *enemy hellbird on the air* permakilled on respawn, it finishes and here we go again *enemy hellbird on the air* i supose that we are dying more cause here we suffer more killstreaks attack than in cod for expample, the other point here the hp regen is lower, I see it like a different gameplay i feel like between cod and battlefield, u have a lot of action but u need to know when pause a little to recover, take a breath and go again

In this game, they dont balance between time of engagement and other mechanics like how fast UAV sweeps the minimap, how fast do you regen health etc

Did you know, that you dont have to press the respawn button as soon as you die. You can wait it out to respawn up to 10 seconds later.
Did you also know, that you can delay your respawn so that you arent immediately killed by a hellbird? Magic, right?

Using this technique on maps that have open-air and exposed spawns, I have died suprisingly little to hellbirds after spawning.

Also, Call of Duty has better netcode and lag compensation than IronSight does. That's why it takes skill in CoD to get the higher killstreaks. I think IronSight has too many server issues for the offensive drones to be tied to kills. The current score required for a Metal Reaper is 4400 points, which would equate to 44 kills in 1 life if the point value remains unchanged. Same is for the hellbird at 3600 points, or 36 kills. Since you like your CoD comparisons, both of these are still considerably more expensive than getting a nuke, and getting anywhere near that amount of kills with the current netcode is nigh on impossible.

For a killstreaks system to be added to the offensive drones, the kills required for the offensive drones would be lowered considerably. I think that due to the server issues, you would either see no offensive drones in use, or WAY TOO MANY offensive drones, especially earlier on in matches like resource or secure point

>Did you know, that you dont have to press the respawn button as soon as you die. You can wait it out to respawn up to 10 seconds later.
>Did you also know, that you can delay your respawn so that you arent immediately killed by a hellbird? Magic, right?

Sounds like a great mechanic, just stop playing for 20 seconds. Why not just quit the match and enter a new one while you're at it?

Just kidding. That being said, if points reset when you die, offensive drones wouldn't necessarily be more or less common than before (depending on how you balance it), but it would be more random to achieve them. A points system is probably saner.

Most of the drones are fundamentally broken in terms of their idea. I don't think this is fixable unless you remove them. However, I still think that in the current system the hellbird is too cheap for what it does and considering for how long it stops anyone from really playing the game on some maps. Many people that really don't deserve a hellbird get one, greatly increasing the frequency of hellbirds and the associated interruption of gameplay.

People complain too much about the Hellbird. It's very easy to hide from it, only distracted players get killed by it (no offense, sometimes it happens to me too).

Sometimes I use the bird and can't get a single kill, if the enemy team is not a bunch of noobs running in open areas.

About the spawns, the bird can't even see it sometimes. But as already said, if there's an enemy bird on the air, WAIT for your respawn. And when you respawn, run for cover, spawn protection is there for a reason.

I don't really understand why people believe that it's an acceptable solution to just stop playing the game for 20s until the hellbird despawns. If that's the solution, then the hellbird is absolutely pointless: You call it, just to wait in your hellbird for 20s while everyone hides from you, and everyone hiding from you has to stop playing for 20s while waiting for the hellbird to despawn. Sure sounds broken to me, especially considering how easy it is to get a hellbird. Sure, it's easy to hide from it on some maps and continue playing normally, but on other maps it's a shitfest. Also one of the reasons why I avoid Dam.

CaptainNoobles wrote:

Did you know, that you dont have to press the respawn button as soon as you die. You can wait it out to respawn up to 10 seconds later.
Did you also know, that you can delay your respawn so that you arent immediately killed by a hellbird? Magic, right?

Using this technique on maps that have open-air and exposed spawns, I have died suprisingly little to hellbirds after spawning.

Also, Call of Duty has better netcode and lag compensation than IronSight does. That's why it takes skill in CoD to get the higher killstreaks. I think IronSight has too many server issues for the offensive drones to be tied to kills. The current score required for a Metal Reaper is 4400 points, which would equate to 44 kills in 1 life if the point value remains unchanged. Same is for the hellbird at 3600 points, or 36 kills. Since you like your CoD comparisons, both of these are still considerably more expensive than getting a nuke, and getting anywhere near that amount of kills with the current netcode is nigh on impossible.

For a killstreaks system to be added to the offensive drones, the kills required for the offensive drones would be lowered considerably. I think that due to the server issues, you would either see no offensive drones in use, or WAY TOO MANY offensive drones, especially earlier on in matches like resource or secure point

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U forgot u get 2 points per second lol and 100 per headshot

There's a tactic drone (I forgot its name) that makes the Hellbird "blind", you can't see the enemies marked in red. It makes the bird almost useless. Very useful for those who find the bird so annoying. Whenever you hear "enemy Hellbird is on the air", activate that thing.

Also, can't you destroy a bird with the EMP launcher? Never tried but I guess it works, description says it is meant to destroy drones.

cristianomtd wrote:

There's a tactic drone (I forgot its name) that makes the Hellbird "blind", you can't see the enemies marked in red. It makes the bird almost useless. Very useful for those who find the bird so annoying. Whenever you hear "enemy Hellbird is on the air", activate that thing.

Also, can't you destroy a bird with the EMP launcher? Never tried but I guess it works, description says it is meant to destroy drones.

It takes more than one hit and obviously takes up your secondary spot. The LAWS is probably the most effective counter to the hellbird, but I find it annoying to save it up instead of letting it destroy UAVs just for the chance that someone will call in a hellbird at the end.

sqroot wrote:

cristianomtd wrote:

There's a tactic drone (I forgot its name) that makes the Hellbird "blind", you can't see the enemies marked in red. It makes the bird almost useless. Very useful for those who find the bird so annoying. Whenever you hear "enemy Hellbird is on the air", activate that thing.

Also, can't you destroy a bird with the EMP launcher? Never tried but I guess it works, description says it is meant to destroy drones.

It takes more than one hit and obviously takes up your secondary spot. The LAWS is probably the most effective counter to the hellbird, but I find it annoying to save it up instead of letting it destroy UAVs just for the chance that someone will call in a hellbird at the end.

UAV's can be easily destroyed by gunfire, I sure would save my LAWS to destroy the Hellbird. As everyone can see, there are many ways of countering a Hellbird, besides hiding in a safe area. You don't need to stop playing for 20secs, obviously the Hellbird can't cover the whole map. Just wait for it to get away from you, then keep moving.

cristianomtd wrote:

sqroot wrote:

It takes more than one hit and obviously takes up your secondary spot. The LAWS is probably the most effective counter to the hellbird, but I find it annoying to save it up instead of letting it destroy UAVs just for the chance that someone will call in a hellbird at the end.

UAV's can be easily destroyed by gunfire, I sure would save my LAWS to destroy the Hellbird. As everyone can see, there are many ways of countering a Hellbird, besides hiding in a safe area. You don't need to stop playing for 20secs, obviously the Hellbird can't cover the whole map. Just wait for it to get away from you, then keep moving.

It's not like saving the LAWS just stops you from destroying UAVs, it also stops you from getting your own UAVs.

You don't need to stop playing for 20secs if either one of the following is true:

• You've saved a LAWS for the whole match, which blocks all your other killstreaks from replenishing
• The map has loads of ceilings
• You don't spawn right into hellbird fire (have you ever played Dam while a hellbird or even the much shorter zeus is active?)

And occasionally people will spawn multiple hellbirds in a row. Saved up your LAWS, disabling all your other killstreaks, and destroyed the first one? Here comes another one! And if you're playing Domination, another one, another one and another one!

I don't want the final minutes of a match to look like this, and this kind of stuff is all too frequent. I also don't want to set up my whole loadout just to destroy hellbirds. Granted, I am usually not affected by it, because I am the one getting the Zeus, not my opponents, but I can imagine that other people are affected by it heavily. If I can get a Zeus almost every single match, then surely many other people can get a Hellbird every single match.

As opposed to the end of the match being a race to the final score, it's just a killstreak shitfest.

I can't imagine that using any of the offensive killstreaks is particularly fun either, but maybe that's just me who finds it utterly boring.

And we're just talking about the strong killstreaks right now - what about striker and predator drones? Do you enjoy randomly getting picked off? Do you enjoy lying down on the ground and waiting 10 seconds to hit someone with your drone?

Misfire wrote:

U forgot u get 2 points per second lol and 100 per headshot

You do not get extra points for a headshot. And as for 2 points per second, that's still absolutely nothing compared to the 3600 points you need to actually use a hellbird.

cristianomtd wrote:

There's a tactic drone (I forgot its name) that makes the Hellbird "blind", you can't see the enemies marked in red. It makes the bird almost useless. Very useful for those who find the bird so annoying. Whenever you hear "enemy Hellbird is on the air", activate that thing.

Also, can't you destroy a bird with the EMP launcher? Never tried but I guess it works, description says it is meant to destroy drones.

Counter UAV stops the hellbird from highlighting targets. The LawS is the best drone to counter the hellbird. And yes, the EMP launcher can take out a Hellbird in 2 hits. The first shot does over half health and scrambles its screen, giving the same effect as a counter UAV for 5 or so seconds. It can then be taken out with a single magazine worth of bullets from an AR, or a few shots from a sniper.


The Hellbird is actually incredibly easy to counter. Pop it with an EMP launcher shot. If it kills you after, thats cool, respawn immediately and fire another emp shot at it while you are protected by spawn protection. Stay inside or out of site. Place a LawS. The hellbird requires you to play tactically to avoid or destroy it; if you mindlessly wander around pretending it isnt there, then you only have yourself to blame when you die to it