Posts by Weilan

    where is the excuse when they tried to improve it last patch? o-o

    Actually, the way to fix netcode is to make it favor players with low ping and better connection and not care about laggers living far away.

    This way people who are close to the server or generally have a better connection will enjoy the game, while the laggers should either first invest in a better connection, or if not possible, settle for lagging and having worse experience, or just playing another game.


    It's literally that simple. Also if they can't afford a better connection (money involved), they probably won't buy skins and fund the game either.

    And as a fallback, people should be matched by their ping first and by their KDA second. When there aren't enough people, a lagger can be matched with the low pingers and vice versa. And the rule of the netcode favoring low pingers still applies.



    Just do that and you fix netcode for good. You can't have your cake and eat it. You will either have a horrible netcode and horrible experience for everyone or a good experience for the low pingers...

    And if someone argues "Just because I have a slow connection doesn't mean I shouldn't be able to have fun...". No. If you have a bad connection, that's your f-ing problem. There are so many Asian games (MMOs, FPSes) that are only in Asia for now, some have unoffical English patches and I can technically play them, but I don't because I will lag, it will suck for me and my lagging will ruin the game for everyone else, so I just don't play them.

    Ayy i didn't have many when it first officially took off i didn't like the update that made operators limited to specific classes though... i mean sure it's unlikely the major's going to use more then an SMG but customizability even if slightly unbalanced is always a plus in my book

    Well i heard a lot of people said the netcode sucked

    Didn't suck for me, at least 90% of the time.

    I still use Windows 7, because I gave Windows 10 a fair go for a year straight after launch and I hated how they limit your customization by the patch.

    I also like being able to switch between Aero, Basic, Classic and 3rd party themes on Windows 7, rather than being limited to Windows 10's version of Aero with no Aero. xD

    That's windows 7? Is your's like really old windows 7? i have w7 and mine looks a lot newer than yours

    Haha! You gave me a good laugh. You can play around with settings and make it look different, guess you didn't know that.

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    It clearly states they gave up on this, they won't attempt to fix the netcode again. It's a big investment and so far it hasn't paid off.

    We gave up for this time but we will keep working on it.

    Stay tuned to know more about all of this, we will most likely communicate about it anytime soon.

    Ghost in the Shell First Assault had PTS where players interested in testing out new content and providing feedback could apply for. In that game they also attempted to fix the netcode, they tested it on PTS, they found out that the new netcode broke more things than it fixed and they never applied it. If you had PTS too, you could've discovered this in a closed environment with a few players rather than putting it on live, making the game completely unplayable for 2 straight days and then having to roll it back. You shot yourself in the foot with this last feat.

    having crosshair that doesnt show the exact spot where ur aiming is suposed to make it HARDER for u to shoot hipfiring and force u using ur scope if u want to see red dot etc middle of ur screen to see where u are actually aiming at. for same reason some games have removed whole crosshairs on their hardcode modes, bf for example

    A little late, but I felt I need to reply on this...

    The wide dynamic crosshair doesn't affect anything, people still use hipfire, especially the ones that have played the game enough to know how easy, accurate and forgiving hipfire is, so they will just shoot in the general direction and still make it work. What would make the shooting harder, is if they nerf the hipfiring by increasing the spray so much, people are required to use the scope.

    I'm all for nerfing hipfire to the point where it's only useful as last resort in-your-face kind of method of survival when you suddenly face an enemy after turning a corner.



    Hipfire is what makes this game so awful. The HP regen and accurate hipfire makes the whole game feel like practice mode. Search & Destroy is useless because of it. I like running and shooting too, that has been my play style since 2010. I like rushing flanking and I never like to stand on one spot. But the hipfire is way too easy and using scopes is useless. Why is the game called Ironsight if iron sights (and scopes) are useless? Rushing and running and gunnign should require skill and not every noob should be able to do it, when hipfire becomes useless, when you sprint and see an enemy, you will now have to use the scope and aim more carefully, AKA make an effort, use your brain. There should be a skill gap between noobs an pros in this game. Currently there is none. A pickle with down syndrome can be a pro at this game after a few hours of playing.



    Nerfing hipfire will do exactly what you say - will make gameplay slower. This game needs a slower gameplay, it's too fast and hectic, it involves absolutely no thought process. You can hit someone in the head with a brick 10 times and he will actually play better now that he lost a couple thousand brain cells.



    They say you're an AR57 user, well that makes your points even more invalid. I run around with SA58 Para and AK12. I bet you prone as well when the going gets tough.

    This dead game needs to have hipfire completely useless, otherwise it will become even more dead and will shut down by the end of 2018.

    They don't want to, or rather the such changes are too late to happen. Other than lobby appearance change (which I don't understand why it happened), all other changes to the game have been pressing issues that if left untended, will cause playerbase drop. I don't think refining the game is on their list.

    Priorities are a thing. Netcode and the UI change were in the making since forever ago. More quality of life changes will come in the future.

    It remains to be seen what will happen.

    Usually on landing pages it says "Go to the full website", this particular "landing page" doesn't have any such thing, one would assume that this is in fact the full website...

    Weilan That taskbar of your computer brings back a lot memories.

    I still use Windows 7, because I gave Windows 10 a fair go for a year straight after launch and I hated how they limit your customization by the patch.

    I also like being able to switch between Aero, Basic, Classic and 3rd party themes on Windows 7, rather than being limited to Windows 10's version of Aero with no Aero. xD

    Cheat or not, the fact is it's a lot easier to hit enemies using this static crosshair. So, yes, you have unfair advantage over other players. If you think you don't, you're just lying to yourself to feel better.


    Now, since anyone can do the same by simply sticking something to your monitor, maybe the devs should consider including that kind of crosshair in the game.

    They don't want to, or rather the such changes are too late to happen. Other than lobby appearance change (which I don't understand why it happened), all other changes to the game have been pressing issues that if left untended, will cause playerbase drop. I don't think refining the game is on their list.

    Their website isn't user friendly at all.

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    As you can see on the very front page you can't see the news anywhere. Instead it has a big useless picture of a chick showing her tits and two guys. "Nice" presentation...

    Other game websites have the news actually show on the front fvucking page. And by news showing on the front page I don't mean just a button that links to the News section, the actual News feed is visible to read as soon as you load the website.

    Netcode is not fixed. They will be changing things back to TCP from UDP because of this bug.

    They are rolling back "the netcode update"? Haha. I knew it the moment I read the patch notes about "fixed netcode" and after I played the game. Brace yourselves, because another "netcode patch" won't come, the netcode will remain horrible forever.

    You can see that the last one Ive created was Mart. It has NAF & EDEN labels. Its pretty much at that time that we started using the Naf and Eden terms ^^

    Yeah... I only looked at the first picture. I'm not a proud owner of a long attention span. xD

    Do you really believe yourself? Is that the first F2P FPS game you're playing? The devs/publishers always assure players that "they are working/fixing stuff" just so the most gullible believe it and keep repeating it. You know, if you repeat a lie a thousand times, it becomes truth. I've played through so many F2P FPS games since 2010 and so many have failed, I've read so many bold claims and blatant lies that the games are being improved when in fact nothing changes and here you come white-knighting the hell out of this as if it hasn't happened before. Nothing changes with F2P games. NOTHING. EVER. CHANGES.

    Either they come out good/decent and stay like this or go bad, or come out bad/decent and go worse.

    For some reason people are very naive over ironsight. Its worse than any other f2p ive played. One chick sucks the D on some guy called charlie, quoting everything he say, and beliving it 100p. Its funny. These people have never played a f2p, and definitely never played an aeria/gamigo game. They are 100p its never going p2w, but reality is that it will. They are 100p sure its going to get fixed, but weve seen nothing yet. They said some issues where only on EU server, while they guy obviously said he was playing NA and having the issue, but some CM was 100p sure it was only EU and continued to claim so. Its all lies and promises. No action.

    I already uninstalled a month ago, but im staying here, to watch this game die, day by day, and its happening. And holy fk im loving it. Checking back on forum once or twice a day for 5min, to get a good laugh is the best thing ever.

    You are 100% correct, I don't even know how did they manage to screw it up so bad in such a little time. When Aeria got its hands on Alliance of Valiant Arms, it took them at least 2.5 years to destroy it to the point where when En Masse took over the operation in the West, I actually feel sorry for them, because they tried to fix the damage that Aeria has done to the game, but couldn't do much about it.


    I don't want the game to die, but this is exactly what Aeria is doing about it - look at how much ways there are to spend your money on useless cosmetics, while the game is still in "beta". How shameless is that? If they had any decency at all, they would at least not include stuff for purchase until they have reached the official release. But they have actually succeed in such a way - they have volunteer moderators who repeat their agenda, they have the forum white knights аss kissers who will repeat the agenda too "the game is in beta, it's unfinished, this is totally normal".


    You know, I'm not even angry that so many games become publicly playable in open beta, but the devs don't give two shytes that everything is broken or work on fixing it, they just say they do something and probably drink beer all day and read the forum comments and laugh their аsses off at us plebeians.

    Why are you even still here? You seem pretty convinced this game never had a chance. Yet here you are with a one year old forum account and over 300 posts. Do you really just stay to talk down to anyone who tries to be optimistic about a game they hope will succeed because they enjoy it? That's so pathetic.

    I actually have been checking the news and forums to keep an eye on the game and read about new updates and how people react to it. So I read about an update about rebalancing of some weapons and netcode improvement, so I thought it was the right time to reinstall the game and give it another chance. What I was greeted with was my team staying frozen in spawn and the enemy killing us from their base. First I thought it was hackers (which would have actually been better), after I played a few more games and saw the same thing, I realized something was wrong with the game and realized that there is an issue (which is actually far worse than hackers). So now for two straight days the game is unplayable for everyone and you're talking like you know it all, like the game is actually in beta and is unfinished, which is totally not true. How can I not be annoyed? This is exactly what I'm talking about with those games - they try to "fix" them and they get worse.


    I'm here because I was so excited about the game I registered before there was even a CBT. And I played and tested the game, provided feedback and nothing changed for one year of time. The game is going down the same road as Ghost in the Shell First Assault, except, actually this one tries to fail even faster. Me and many others were super excited about GITS FA, provided feedback and whatnot and at the end of the day, the devs/publishers just did what they wanted - ignored issues, devised different ways to make more money off the game and implemented changes nobody wanted. In the end the game shut down. I've been excited about GITS FA, it shut down, I witnessed a few more games displaying the same "symptoms" as this one and also shutting down, all this between 2015 and now (not talking about my history with such games from 2010 until now).


    I can already see the signs that Ironsight is failing and it really pisses me off because I personally had high hopes for it, but none were revealed, and it also pisses me off that people that showed up two days ago are already talking about the game like they know it all.

    The expectations on you people is just ridiculous. I've actually spent a good deal of money on this game and complained far less. If this happened during the official Steam release then I can understand the outrage. But to make a thread like this on an unfinished game you didn't even have to pay for? Lol embarrassing. Bunch of spoiled entitled kids.

    What makes a Steam release so different and special? Should people actually restrain themselves to play it now and wait for Steam in order to experience even more enjoyment because they have the Steam overlay in game and when they check their profiles it says they've spent 3 hours and 17 minutes playing Ironsight?

    Do you actually believe this game is unfinished? HAHAHAHA! The game has been out in Korea for a few years, it was pretty finished and then it shut down. Now is just as finished as it was back then, all they did was localize it in English and a few other Western languages. Why did they put it in Beta? Because they knew the netcode is dog poo and they needed to hide behind a state of development so that when someone complains that the game is having issues, the staff and white knights can keep shouting "Shut, up, the game is in beta, you can't talk like this about it!".

    If the game was really in Beta and was unfinished, why are they selling cosmetics that are being sold for real money? Why is there a cash shop? Because it isn't really in beta. Beta is just a figurative term for naive folks who actually believe that stuff. If it's really not a "beta, unfinished game" they should remove all cosmetics from the game and work day and night to make it the best thing it can possibly be, and only when they officially launch it, then they can add cosometics and sell them for real money.


    Joke is on you because you spent money on a sub-par scam game that will never improve and will shut down prematurely.

    Who cares? You can always download a program that acts like an overlay crosshair, put the game in borderless window mode and still have a static crosshair.

    Wouldn't advise it though since EAC might smite you for it

    Already tried it, didn't get banned. It's literally a graphic that stays on my screen, if you really think that an anticheat can detect such a thing, then I don't really know how to express what I think about it without sounding insulting. Anticheats detect software trying to inject code into the game or that kind of thing. Next thing you know, they will start going around people's houses inspecting their monitors if they used a permanent marker to draw a dot in the middle and ban them if they did...

    having crosshair that doesnt show the exact spot where ur aiming is suposed to make it HARDER for u to shoot hipfiring and force u using ur scope if u want to see red dot etc middle of ur screen to see where u are actually aiming at. for same reason some games have removed whole crosshairs on their hardcode modes, bf for example

    Who cares? You can always download a program that acts like an overlay crosshair, put the game in borderless window mode and still have a static crosshair.

    That's a cool feature, I really hate the big dynamic crosshair of the game and I can't comprehend how would they ignore people who want a static small crosshair. Black Squad allows you to customize your crosshair:

    - shape

    - scale

    - colors (you actually have can create your custom color)

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    Black Squad is very simplistic, compared to Ironsight, but it puts it to shame, because whatever Ironsight does, Black Squad does it 10000000 times better.

    Open Beta? Do you really believe that? The game shuts down in Korea and now it tries its luck in the West to milk the rest for what it's worth and they slap the Open Beta tag, because they know the game is unstable as doodoo so they have something to hide behind when people point out the issues. If the game still exists in 1 year from now, whether it is in OBT or not, it will still have the same quality. .... Open Beta game he said... PFSSHHH... ><

    did u know why it did in korean then

    Their licence expired. But do you know why didn't they renew their license and focused on the West instead? Probably because not many Korean players cared about the game and decided they can milk it here better before people here also realize the game is a causa perduta.

    why are you trying to make urself sound like a VIP customer whos leaving was a big lose to the game and community (+ cause DEATH OF THE GAME, lol)


    crying about day or 2 downtime on currently FREE OPEN BETA game

    Open Beta? Do you really believe that? The game shuts down in Korea and now it tries its luck in the West to milk the rest for what it's worth and they slap the Open Beta tag, because they know the game is unstable as doodoo so they have something to hide behind when people point out the issues. If the game still exists in 1 year from now, whether it is in OBT or not, it will still have the same quality. .... Open Beta game he said... PFSSHHH... ><

    Guys, they're fixing some issues so i think that the server it's unstable and disconnect players.

    Do you really believe yourself? Is that the first F2P FPS game you're playing? The devs/publishers always assure players that "they are working/fixing stuff" just so the most gullible believe it and keep repeating it. You know, if you repeat a lie a thousand times, it becomes truth. I've played through so many F2P FPS games since 2010 and so many have failed, I've read so many bold claims and blatant lies that the games are being improved when in fact nothing changes and here you come white-knighting the hell out of this as if it hasn't happened before. Nothing changes with F2P games. NOTHING. EVER. CHANGES.

    Either they come out good/decent and stay like this or go bad, or come out bad/decent and go worse.

    This game gets better and better, I decide to check it after it says there is a new netcode update and now there is this disaster... amazing.

    What can be done about this game is to be differentiated from being a run-of-the-mill COD clone with nothing unique going for it except being made in Korea.

    The recoil should be drastically increased on all weapons, so you are forced to even tap SMGs.
    The HP regen should be removed and a class system should be introduced where there is a medic, like one per team and is the only one that can heal themselves or others.
    Killstreaks should be removed.

    Prone should be removed.

    Hipfire should be useless.

    After all, the only serious mode in the game is Demoliton (or Search & Destroy) and it's completely turned into a joke with the hillariously rewarding hipfire after sprinting, the proning and most importantly the HP regen. Especially no-brainer hipfire and HP regen make this game a complete joke, then there is the proning - you encounter someone and you engage them in a firefight and they see that they are about to die, if they are pathetic noobs, they prone and hope to kill you during your surprise, horrible, horrible gameplay mechanic.

    The game will always be discarded as a cheap COD clone if it keeps going like this. And apparently the few people that still play it are completely OK with it being a COD clone, but this is the downfall of the game, because why play this when you can play COD Black Ops 4?

    The way it keeps going, I give it until the middle of 2019, when people see a F2P COD clone and Aeria games they just move on, after all Aeria killed AVA with P2W cash shop and it only took them one year.

    I agree with everything you say, but also we should do something about sniping as its way to op. Also it would be help full that certain guns get a small damage boost cause i cant forget all those times i was 1/2 damages away of killing an enemy but him killing me that its getting on my nerves.

    Yeah snipers are getting nerfed next patch so i didnt account for them. And for your dmg boost point 3. and 7. should do it

    Are they gonna "nerf" them like they nerfed the AR57? Like nerfing the wrong the weapon still being OP? Do you really believe that? The only thing you can hope on is for a new weapon to be released that is more OP than the current OP weapon.


    HELLO MY FRIEND


    THE GAME HAS THE HP IT HAS BECAUSE IT'S A CALL OF DUTY CLONE


    AND AS SUCH EVERYTHING IS EASY AND YOU ARE NOT SUPPOSED TO TAKE THE GAME SERIOUSLY


    NO PROS PLAY IT OR HAVE INTEREST IN IT


    THANK YOU MY FRIEND

    Nothing new under the sun. All Korean games in the West have netcode issues, some are negligible, some are severe.


    AVA and Black Squad have little netcode issues and the games were simplistic to none regarding customization so balance was not an issue and they could easily focus on ESL from the start. Ghost in the Shell First Assault had extensive customization (similar to Ironsight, but way more advanced) so it had blance issues (like Ironsight), it also had sever netcode issues (like Ironsight) so due to its theme and extensive customization the game was niche and ESL wasn't something you see on the horizon. The situation was the same - Western Publisher, game dev team is in Korea, still actively working on the game, communication with the devs isn't direct, there were only two Q&A events and thats was in the beginning, then the dev team went silent for the next year and a half until the end. The netcode issues became evident since the game launched into Early Access and it took about a whole year before they made a PTS server that would periodically open for tests, one of which was a fix for the netcode. That netcode fix fixed some things and broke many others so the fix never saw the light of day. They couldn't fix the most pressing issue with the game, but kept releasing new content. The game was marketed as F2P, no P2W, yet a year and a half later they added Gacha system for skins. It wasn't P2W, but it was a gambling system with very unfair odds. Players saw that no improvements were made to the fundamental structure of the game and little by little started leaving, until one day a patch (that nobody asked for) is released in a last attempt to attract people to the game that completely revamps the game, then half the population leaves in a matter of a week and from then on it was the downward spiral towards shut down.


    And it's not just one game that did that.


    Blacklight Retribution, not a Korean game, so netcode wasn't that big of an issue since it was originally developed with a mindset to be played in bigger regions like EU and NA. Game is going pretty well, until one day they decide to release a parity patch that will make the PC game play like the PS4 game, nobody asked for it and within 2 months of release, about 3/4 of the population is gone.


    The lessons to be learned here are:

    - games of this caliber (F2P online only FPS) stay the same from start to end, despite what is being said, despite the patch notes, games like this stay the same and in case of big changes it never ends well

    - this includes netcode - netcode will ALWAYS be the same, no matter what is said, prove me wrong, I will believe it when I see it, but that will never happen, because the game was designed to be played in Korea and in order to make it work in EU and NA, they have to rewrite the netcode from scratch, which is not feasible at this point, so the only way to do anything is to apply gimmicky fixes that will attempt to adapt it for the current situation at best, usually with no visible difference, patch notes may say it has changed, but it will be the same, there may be footage from a closed environment depicting how the netcode has improved, but in a real situation, the original problems will still be just as easily reproduced. The only way to fix a netcode is to add a ping limit of 100 and everyone above that limit can't connect, it's harsh, but it's the only way, if you have garbage internet you have to make do with garbage browser games

    - player feedback is respected and taken into consideration on the lowest possible level



    If I install the game again in one year, it will be exactly the same, if it even exists at this point, I'd like to be proven wrong, but from what I've seen before this is just daydreaming and the list of failed and shut down F2P FPS games keeps increasing....

    You're wasting your time writing this, they only do what they feel it's right for the game and only acknowledge player feedback when over 80% of the people are complaining about the same thing. Those aspects have been set in stone so don't count on them ever changing.


    I've seen this before in many other games such as this one, I was once like this, thinking that if I provide a well formatted feedback with lots of details it will be noticed, but it doesn't - you just waste your time writing and the game goes on jus the way it used to be.


    I provided so many ideas about the game - it was all for naught. They don't care anymore, they act like they do, but they don't. Look at the official Twitch and YouTube channel and check when was the last time they did a livestream - the intervals between streams continue to increase until eventually they stop doing it altogether. Volunteer moderators are the ones keeping the forum clean, if they can't employ their own mods, it shows how much they care. There are also the white knights who will always pitch in to say how perfect the game is and how wrong the person complaining is.

    What you see now is what the game will always be - a bugged mess with poor balance and awful netcode. Don't count on it being in "open beta", because the game has been out in Korea for years. It shut down in that region, because it failed, now they are milking the West before it shuts down here as well. Open Beta is a figurative term so whatever flaws this finished product has can be excused by it being in "open beta". Mark my words, this is following the same path of Ghost in the Shell First Assault - big promises, tons of issues with the game, instead of addressing the issues they add more content on top, issues remain, so does the imbalance of weapons. People start leaving, because even the whitest of white knights finally realize this is going nowhere and they have wasted their time.


    It's a sad story to see games treated like this. But after all it's games as a service, not games as a final product like back in thr day.

    It will be coming from you too later when you realize the team don't care about anything else but making money unless you quit by then.

    My account is the 55th registered on the forum, that's how much I was hyped once, until I realized there is no salvation for this game and nobody cares. I don't want it to fail or insult it, but it has already failed. You're too late to the show. Feel as much salt as you want, I can give you pepper, butter and bread so you can make a toast and eat something.


    I was on their Discord a few months ago and almost every two days there was server maintenance to fix errors. The netcode in this game is garbage. I'm running into a room, I look around, everything is clear, I proceed to move on, next to me shows up an enemy and kills me before I can even react. That's Habib from who knows where who wants to plat the game, but servers aren't provided for his region so he plays on whatever servers are closest to him. I don't blame Habib for wanting to have fun, I blame the netcode, because it favors laggers over people with good ping.

    If you live in Europe you should play on North America server to have a good time and if you live in North America, you should play in Europe server respectively in order to have a good time.

    1.You are right, player should lose no health at all, when you get shot you should get extra health, even if that means going over the default 100.



    2. Game has no classes.


    3. Gun progress bars are way too convenient and aren't required.


    5. Agreed, as well as how much damage you've dealt to them too.



    Go on, create content, nobody will care, they will feature it in a "community update" thread and forget about it.


    Infected is not a classic, it's something that gives FPS games a bad name



    The devs will look into your feedback as much as they did into mine which I've been sending since November 2017 and implement it into the game. Trust me, they really care.


    (Sarcasm mode disabled)

    More servers are already being looked into and will come in the future ^^




    The game is definitely improving guys

    trust me


    it's not the same garbage it was in February

    there are no laggers

    there are no cheaters

    only every update is about cash shop skins


    and more servers are coming because more people should buy skins



    AR57 is no longer OP the devs said it's not, they released a patch that "fixed" it, according to their point of view it's "fixed" so all future complaints will be ignored, so whoever complains about it stick it up where the sun don't shine!!



    Battle Carnival has less 200 players


    they have no cash shop

    they have no regular shop

    they release a patch/fix every week

    they have people from the team in Korea actively involved with the community on Discord

    they release a content update every week

    the players are the ones who ask for a shop

    they are a dev team/publisher who should make an example for the rest

    they are more focused to make the game enjoyable for players rather than milk it


    they should get recognition, not the Ironsight scammers


    Ironsight is my favorite game, the staff are so positive about it, everything works so perfect, it's not a Korean Call of Duty clone, it has a backstory that everyone deeply cares about. Most importantly it has a future and it will not be shut down because the promises to the players have been broken.