weapon switch vs postion

  • I think that the time to pull a knife, vs the time it takes to lay prone is ridiculously off. Players seem to instantly go from standing to prone, yet I pull a knife I have to do this flip/swirl of the knife before use. I am pretty sure if you made me mad enough to stick you with a knife, that I could do so, before you hit the ground. Or at least you would be bleeding profusely when you got to the ground. Dev's need to at least consider this.

  • The time it takes to go prone is way off, but the time it takes to switch weapon is okay IMO.


    If you dropped the weapon you had in hand a faster knife draw would make sense but as it stands you secure your primary or re-holster your secondary before switching to knife.


    It really couldn't be any faster without looking weird.


    Going prone thou seems almost as fast as crouching...


    Hell make crouching take the time it takes to go prone now and make going prone take as long as switching from primary to secondary weapon with huge accuracy debuff for any bullet shot in the transition.


    Prone is not something that should be done mid fire fight, but something to do while preparing to defend a location, like when sniping or capping a zone.

  • proning needs to be ajusted this had been adressed many times in many other posts,

    it takes away from the base idea of this game to beable to just drop to the ground suddenly during a gun fight. i shouldnt have to aim at the floor to get a kill i should beable to just aim at your chest or head adn get the kill.

    also if i recall right there is a quck knife button in the game >.> insted of switchin weapons just use the insta melee button. much like you would in COD atleast i think theres a quick melee button i could be wrong o.o i didnt use melee at all in this game i found it was faster just to shoot someone then stab them with a knife.

  • the E key is the default button to use melee attacks o-o

    there you go >.> insted of switching to knife use the E key. you should beable to knife them faster.

    but proning still needs to be fixed >.>

    Not really that fast, there is a moment while you pull out the knife when you're doing nothing while using E, it is only slightly shorter then when you switch from primary to pistol, which is why I never use it.

  • Thanks for the input friends. I will have to try the "E" key. I know using the #'s key, you pull the knife and sort of twirl it before you can use it. I don't think in a battle situation, I will be taking the time to twirl my knife when my life is depending on a successful hit. I died several times trying to get that knife kill, and because of the twirl, I had to hit the action button 3 to 4 times before I made the slash motion. By then, my surprise attack was no longer, and I found myself in a gun fight with a knife.

  • I made a thread where I talked about it, if not remove it altogether, at least give it 2 second animation so it's more punishing and people don't spam it and only people who are sniping/camping on rooftops and balconies can use it with less consequence. Having to run into someone and they drop to the ground when they see they are dying and you end up dying because of that... it just sucks...

    This is my number 1 issue with the game, the second one being the low TTK which doesn't give you enough reaction time to shoot the one behind you. Or if two people from two different directions start shooting at you, you are as good as dead, at least increase the TTK to the point where you can kill at least one of those two people, it will be way more satisfying and less unfair.

  • I understand the first part of that, I lost my life quite a lot to the spam prone button pushers. Be nice if they at least went to a knee then prone. Those split seconds would be enough to transition you fire. Kinda crappy when your shooting someone center mass, your lighting em up. You think you got the kill when they go down instantly, but you realize it didn't say "Kill" at the top of the screen. And your dead before you can react..... But.... if two people start shooting at you from two sides, your going to be being hit by twice as many bullets. So you die twice as fast. Chances, probably of one in billions if not trillions, that you will be able to kill one of them first, with the exception of the lotto head shot. :-) But you think that's unfair. That's your opinion, and I appreciate that, but I disagree. I think its more unfair with what you are asking, I work very hard to compliment my team with flanking, and support. I like the fact this game is a bit more realistic in that aspect..... LOL That's like me asking for them to increase the rate of fire on the MP5, cause that the gun of my choice.

  • well as said earlyer its faster to hit e then it is to switch to the knife.

    proneing is a little lopsided. it needs an ajustment. i think its the consnsus of the community that it needs to be slowed down to allow more reaction time.

  • well as said earlyer its faster to hit e then it is to switch to the knife.

    proneing is a little lopsided. it needs an ajustment. i think its the consnsus of the community that it needs to be slowed down to allow more reaction time.

    When I first started playing I was surprised that people were proning, so I opened keyboard options and saw that there is no key binded on prone for me and since I think proning is really gay, I left the key not binded and teabagged every proner I killed. I hope the developers fix this issue so those noobs get what they deserve. xD

  • well as said earlyer its faster to hit e then it is to switch to the knife.

    proneing is a little lopsided. it needs an ajustment. i think its the consnsus of the community that it needs to be slowed down to allow more reaction time.

    When I first started playing I was surprised that people were proning, so I opened keyboard options and saw that there is no key binded on prone for me and since I think proning is really gay, I left the key not binded and teabagged every proner I killed. I hope the developers fix this issue so those noobs get what they deserve. xD

    Well, I'm still not ised to proning anyway xD. I also do most of the things while standing. What I noticed though is that crouching isn't helping much. You get lower for few centimeters and the enemies still see you over the edges lol

  • When I first started playing I was surprised that people were proning, so I opened keyboard options and saw that there is no key binded on prone for me and since I think proning is really gay, I left the key not binded and teabagged every proner I killed. I hope the developers fix this issue so those noobs get what they deserve. xD

    Well, I'm still not ised to proning anyway xD. I also do most of the things while standing. What I noticed though is that crouching isn't helping much. You get lower for few centimeters and the enemies still see you over the edges lol

    yeah cover dont work to well in this game sometimes lol i dont know how many times i spotted someones head over a box and was like " realy ? " (( pop pop dead )) " dont hide there "

  • Well, I'm still not ised to proning anyway xD. I also do most of the things while standing. What I noticed though is that crouching isn't helping much. You get lower for few centimeters and the enemies still see you over the edges lol

    yeah cover dont work to well in this game sometimes lol i dont know how many times i spotted someones head over a box and was like " realy ? " (( pop pop dead )) " dont hide there "

    xD for now I read only about proning and no one mentioned crouching. Felt almost like I was the only one

  • yeah cover dont work to well in this game sometimes lol i dont know how many times i spotted someones head over a box and was like " realy ? " (( pop pop dead )) " dont hide there "

    xD for now I read only about proning and no one mentioned crouching. Felt almost like I was the only one

    naw we just haddent gotten to it yet, crouching also dont need much of a change. just drop the our heads .xx centameters lower so that low wall where trying to hide behind we truly hide behind. and remove the ability to NOT jump on certen boxes and crates able to be climbed on. i dont know how many times i looked at a box and went " i can jump on this ! " and was denied ! dang invisable walls evil all of them !

  • I got a bunch of kills just over the top of a box. A lot of the structures did not protect you from bullets. When you think they would. Cant count the times I ducked behind concrete, crouched for a reload, and bam. I am dead, and the person who got me was 1/3 the way across the map shooting through barriers that should stop everything short of a .50 cal. Sometimes multiple barriers, couple cars, and a wall sort of thing. On the other hand, I was also killed several times by someone crouched behind something, and all I can see is his skull cap, he is shooting through the barriers. His gun not even remotely visible.